This site, like many other projects of mine, has not gotten a lot of love in the past few months. Usually this is a sign that my ambitions have predictably crashed to earth in the face of the effort required to sustain them, and that is certainly a part of the story. Thankfully this time around the cycle of willpower I have something to show for it.

Jesse and I have been friends for 20 years and bandmates for 10. Our band has been a reliable creative engine for a long time, and it’s a natural fit to take some of our conversations (which can take on the properties of a vaudeville routine) and put them on the internet for others to hear. We have both struggled on creative projects in the past (including not one but two failed podcasts before this one) and it’s been immensely rewarding to make a stable container for us to dump our minds into.

Our mandate is simple: we find things to share with each other. This has given us the flexibility to figure out what the show is while we’re doing it, and it’s taking on its own character as we get our podcasting sea legs (episode 10 is being recorded tonight). Spontaneity is a big theme, as we show up having not fully prepared or surprising our cohost with a topic out of left field. There’s a habitual tendency to keep each other on our toes, and the best moments of the show are when we are thrown off our game enough to let some new energy through.

To give you a flavor of the kinds of things that happen: Jesse has had an ongoing fascination with a tiny local newspaper, I go into some detail on my qigong practice and the struggles of being a parent, Jesse invented a game show called AI or Cool Guy that is impossible to win, I watched the worst-reviewed movie on rotten tomatoes and lived to tell the tale, and so on. There is a small but dedicated “Zaggurat” of listeners, which is endlessly cool, and the fact that we have two audio projects that can reference one another is going to open a lot of fun doors.

Search “zagways” in your podcast app of choice to check it out, and check out our meager web site to see all the places you can find us.